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[Jay]: and I’m Jay and today will be a special episode as we will put Yeat’s ADL vs Kanye West Bully in a head-to-head battle.
What does this mean you may ask?
Well first we will briefly go over both albums and see which one comes out on top.
Let’s start with Yeet’s ADL shall we?
Let’s go.
Let’s go.
Let’s go right through it, right through ADL.
You know a lot of people have mixed reactions with this album but what do you think about this album?
I’m a Yeet fan.
I’m a Yeet fan and honestly it’s a little underwhelming.
I don’t want to say it’s boring but there are…
Your expectations were pretty high for him.
Yeah which I don’t know if maybe my expectations were too high because the sounds good like it sounds like Yeet.
A lot of the same creativity, a lot of the same structure of songs, even the same topics.
Maybe that’s what it is.
He kind of stuck with the same same old same old.
Yeah he didn’t like expand his music.
Right, right yeah.
He just stick to his own music habits but what are your thoughts on the first half of the album?
I think it started off slow.
I really didn’t start getting into the tracks.
I think it was Griddle.
Griddle yeah.
I think that’s the first track where I was like all right I’m feeling it because the Ellen John one, that wasn’t really it for me.
I only expected that collab but it was a sample from Elton John’s one of his songs.
Do you know what song it was?
No I’m not a big Ellen John fan and that’s the thing too that caught me off guard.
It was like I feel like if you’re a Yeet fan what are the chances that you’re an Ellen John fan?
Like I doubt it.
And what are the chances if you’re an Ellen John fan that you’re a Yeet fan?
Like I doubt it.
So I don’t know how that crossover like makes sense.
That’s a weird crossover I’m not gonna lie.
But he also collabed with Youngboy.
What are your thoughts on that?
Me personally, I’m not into NBA Youngboy.
Like I don’t like the voice.
I can’t get into like that weird soprano like I don’t know kind of kid voice that he’s got going on.
So that’s why I was saying those first like those first three are straight skips for me and then I’ll just jump into Griddle because I’ve been into Don Toliver lately.
I really like the Octane album.
He’s on fire lately.
Yeah and like every time he’s on a feature he like hits it.
I haven’t seen him flop.
There’s no bad Don Toliver feature.
Right.
But with the Youngboy feature you know he does give features and most of it’s pretty bad but I think in this case it was pretty listenable.
I think he actually carried Don Toliver which that’s a bigger issue that we will discuss later on but I feel like Youngboy did his thing in the Face the Flame song and Grimes was also in that song.
Yeah I think I think I’m just biased on that that I don’t like those two artists personally so maybe that’s why for me I just saw the names and for me it was like let me listen to it.
Yeah exactly.
Okay but what about oh and also Julia Wolfe as well on My Way.
I think she had a little nice touch into that song.
I felt like it was almost her song and Yeet backpacking on Julia Wolfe.
Yeah I mean if you’re gonna bring up the features right now and talk about backpacking I feel like all the features Yeet was given were kind of like the songs were written by the feature artists like they were their songs and it almost sounds like he was a feature on his own track.
Yeah.
Like I’m getting that vibe off the Kid Cudi song.
Yeah.
The 070 Shake song like it doesn’t it seems like like he was given the like the song writing he was given the beat and then was like all right do your Yeet thing on it because it I don’t know it feels like he’s using his voice but it’s someone else’s lyrics.
It’s a weird vibe.
Like it’s not a song it’s just like he’s trying to like be on the features world instead of like um like working together and creating this new song but.
Right.
Yeah.
Almost like for the money more than for the sound.
For the sound.
But next we should talk about um the second half of the album and I’ll say this yeah it was pretty rough I’m not gonna lie starting from let me see starting from Naked that’s a one minute 30 second song it just Yeet talking about someone being naked.
It gets pretty repetitive.
Yeah it does.
A lot of the songs are just like sex jokes.
Yeah it’s a bland production too and it went wrong with 070 Shake and that song I feel like Yeet is just trying to like catch up on 070’s vibe on that song and yeah he didn’t he didn’t execute it.
If we’re looking at the track order I feel like it all went wrong when King Kylie hopped in.
Obviously she’s still applied words but I understand that because like King Kylie you don’t Kylie Jenner is not obviously not a musician.
Yeah that’s that’s a random.
That’s what I’m saying that’s when I feel like you could see what the album is all about yeah it’s about big names it’s about connecting with huge artists that are gonna like definitely they are gonna turn some heads when they see you know NBA Youngboy or when they see Kid Cudi on a track list.
Or Elton John.
That’s what I’m saying like it’s gonna turn heads but then you listen you’re like eh I guess.
It’s almost like clickbait for a song.
Exactly.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah I didn’t really like the features like I feel like he was just doing as a business move like oh I know people.
These are new features like okay he did collab with Kid Cudi and Youngboy and Joji before and Don Toliver but he never collabed with King Kylie or Osamni Sheik or Swiss Beatz like okay like he did have some features where he they were like known to collab before and but others are like pretty unordinary.
Like the BNYX has he collabed with them before?
Benny X?
Benny X. Oh yeah this is one of his main producers but yeah yeah and then another song on on two planes it’s just a two minute song it’s it’s just bland it’s just yeah it’s a repetitive music.
Tee Nites, Two Nites, Repetitive 2 and then um I don’t like Dangerous House.
Dangerous House, Dangerous House, Dangerous House.
Yeah it’s like it makes me want to go to sleep I’m not gonna lie.
That’s what I’m saying I feel like sometimes he I mean he even says it on the album like I do whatever I want I say whatever I want whenever I want like I feel like.
It gets to a point.
Yeah like okay we get it bro you do whatever you want like you’re not even trying like does that mean I want to listen to it?
No.
I’m not really.
Yeah but I will say though the like the ending of the album Silk Face, Back Home those are crispy songs I’m not gonna lie.
Yeah if it’s not like rage music it’s um oh yeah it’s like that chill soft beat.
Yeah yeah.
I don’t really.
You don’t get too much.
Get too much exactly yeah.
I mean and I’m a Joji fan so I could be a little then my bias might come in again where like automatically I’m going to I see Joji and that’s the first song I’m going to click on because that’s the vibe and then like you’re saying like he don’t really doesn’t do that chill vibe so it’s kind of nice like where it was really that’s it it’s only the last two couple songs that he saves that sound for because maybe he could have done more with it but yeah.
He’s just trying to like throw out like whatever.
Yeah almost like and I feel like almost he was just networking for this album.
Networking that’s a perfect word right there but anyways.
I mean as far as the content I feel like the content’s lacking.
Yeah for sure.
He was trying to talk about like his lifestyle you know he’s a popular rapper like that lifestyle of like you know balancing his personal life and his music life but he doesn’t really go far in depth into that he just talks about like the the ordinary um topics like yeah sex drugs um you know I’m splashing my money everywhere.
Yeah exactly which I feel like he’s already done albums like that like Dangerous Summer he kind of had that vibe of like I’m partying I’m having fun like I don’t know maybe he could have gotten a little more introspective.
Exactly that’s that’s what he said he personally said himself that like this is going to be like my most complete album like I’m going to go like in depth into what I want to say but he just went back to his old habits.
Yeah.
That’s a big issue for me is he goes he sticks to his own habits instead of expanding into something new and refreshing for me and his fans.
I will give it to him though I feel like he did refine the sound like okay because it’s like there’s no distortion as much like it’s pretty clean pretty crisp his voice has like the sound that people are used to now like that open deep like oh like super deep like I feel like people are used to that now and then he just cleaned it up like he really refined it so I’ll give him that the production is cleaner I mean if we’re going to talk about Bully like once we get into it like it is clean the production is pretty clean.
Yeah.
Shall we go to Bully already?
I think so.
If you want what are your final thoughts maybe on ADL maybe a rating to start.
Honestly I the more the more I listen to it I do I do like the songs but I think I’m like used to the slop is the sloppiness of Yeet’s music where I’m like um I’m like uh like you’ve heard it before yeah like I’m already used to yeah the slop and so like I’m like settling down with the yeah like at first when you heard a Yeet song I was like whoa he sounds weird like he’s mumbling he sounds so deep like that’s a weird sound but now you’ve heard it for a few albums you’re kind of used to it yeah I’m kind of used to it but the rating I would have to give it probably a 5 out of 10. 5 out of 10.
Right in the middle.
I want to give it a 5 out of 10 for content but I can’t lie the production is pretty good so I think it boosts it a little bit so maybe a 6 out of 10 yeah just because the production does carry a little bit and there’s some bangers in the song and the album as well and like even though we critique the features it does take some work to get good features like to agree to set it up like the business of it so he did try to put in the work you know like it wasn’t slacking but yeah it was just it was the content wasn’t there the depth wasn’t there so 6 out of 10.
Yeah the big issues um dock the points for me in person but yeah that’s Yeet’s 80 ounce so now let’s move on with Yeet’s Bully long-awaited album oh my goodness let’s start with the concept matter what was he talking about in this album?
Bro unlike Yeet where Yeet’s only talking about drugs and sex and like shallow stuff I feel like Kanye always goes in deep he starts talking politics.
He has a structure within his albums.
He starts talking about his family problems he starts talking about God like he starts he hits everything he does talk about drugs like he does talk about partying too like there’s some Travis Scott songs in there you know but the but the the breadth and the depth like so many different topics and then he’s diving deep he does hit that interpersonal like oh yeah he’s going through it like with his with his wife or ex-wife I don’t know if they’re divorced already or not like he always has that like where he’s going to talk about politics what’s going on in the world he’s going to talk about what’s going on with him he’s like yeah yeah so like I don’t know I expected that from Kanye and that well like it’s lyricism yeah it makes it interesting yeah it makes it interesting it makes it interesting yeah I think my main takeaway with the like the concept matter of this album is you know he’s been going through it you know recently but you know I think now he’s like getting uh ahead of himself of like yo like I need to actually like settle down and like log in yeah yeah like he grounded himself a little bit yeah like he’s going back to concerts yeah going back to albums he’s being like his old self again yeah yeah the old Kanye it’s a little taste of the old Kanye a little taste of the old Kanye which is a good direction but let’s talk about the features only that we did see though that he did remove Don Toliver off of Circles yeah I want yeah I like Don Toliver he grew on me so yeah I did miss that feature that’s a generational like yeah like Kanye West and Don Toliver you don’t really get that that much yeah and honestly I think I would have preferred it over the Travis Scott one even really yeah because the Travis Scott one is it’s hyped up because it’s Travis Scott and then the whole thing about like oh he put the drums on like ordinary but yeah I’m kind of like listening to him like the mix is kind of lacking you know Travis Scott kind of is whatever on it I don’t know like everyone always says oh Kanye and Travis Scott together like he’s gonna be a banger he’s gonna be bigger and so you still got to put the work in yeah so I don’t know yeah well for me with Travis Scott on Father I mean it’s a banger too I’m not gonna lie but Travis Scott just brings in like this hype like moments of that he brings in like and most of his feature songs yeah and Kanye West it goes yeah it goes both ways and like they’re like matching each other and actually Travis Scott would produce or co-produce this song Father with Kanye West and then once once there’s a concert or something like Travis Scott gets the people going crazy gets the people so if Kanye brings out Travis Scott in a concert you know it’s gonna go wild it’s gonna go lit that’s a great feature another great feature was um I should know no phenomenal feature yeah oh my him with the the ovox talk box like the synthesizer you know it’s got a crazy sound he’s he’s a master at that sound all on all the love and why yeah I mean it brings a different like soundscape into right with some songs it’s like it’s a sound that it’s almost familiar but new at the same time you know what I mean like I feel like I’ve heard that type of style yeah like he’s bringing it back or something yeah but it’s like more redefined now it’s like a 2020s like version of right that sounds like a cleaned up version of that sound yeah yeah I feel you that was like a sick sound and I’m glad he went with something like experimental and I was kind of expecting that because he he does like to experiment with autotune and like synthesizers and the production and it could be a hit or miss but in this case it was a hit for right yeah and with the Andre Troutman one I feel like his mixes come out the cleanest because there are some mixes on some other tracks where I’m like oh it sounds weird like his voice will almost sound like telephony or it won’t be mixed right like even the drums on the father one I feel like they don’t sit in the mix right like they sound almost like the drums are on top of the mix instead of being like surrounding the mix if that makes energy yeah it’s not like it’s not glued together together like the drums aren’t deep and like surrounding the whole song where everything’s bringing it together glued it’s more like oh let’s stick the drums on top and then like the vocals on top of that and hopefully that works yeah in case it doesn’t work yeah I mean I guess if you have an ear for it like if you don’t really have an ear for the mix to you it’s just like oh the drums are there and the vocals are there but if you’re kind of like wait how come this is panned here and how come the drums aren’t deep enough in the mix and how come the voice is not up front it’s too like if you kind of pay attention to those things I feel like you might be able to nitpick the mix on some of the Kanye’s which he might have been experimental like he might have done it on purpose where he wanted to sound kind of weird but there’s times where I’m listening to it and I have to check my eq or something you know what I mean like like do I have a telephone eq on this or something here am I like am I eqing this weird it’s like messing with your ear yeah I was messing my ear yeah because I’m like and then it’s yeah I’m like I don’t know if it’s experimental or he’s or it’s just like it’s like a like a editing issue yeah exactly I don’t know but another feature C oh CeeLo CeeLo CeeLo Green yeah legendary legendary um he did he did he did his thing on Bully um yeah yeah that song because of hey hey you know what I say like he brought in that like raw like he’s a good singer too he’s a good singer you brought that raw like energy into that song and his voice is very distinguished distinguished yeah everyone can kind of hear and be like oh I know that voice like whoa like like hold on like let this guy like sing like he got your attention in that song Bully yeah which is whoa what were you gonna say oh no you go first I was gonna say like now that you’re naming all the features like they all delivered and then there’s Beso Pluma you know what I mean let’s go to Pluma next yeah yeah this is a generational um collab you know a Mexican artist and an American singer and rapper and he’s singing Spanish and he sang in Spanish and it wasn’t the best I’m not gonna lie but I felt like in Last Breath Beso Pluma wasn’t used enough he was like Besame Mama como tu sabes yeah and then his verse his verse was like lackluster and then the mix on the verse sounded weird like I was saying yeah I think he’s too deep in the mix you can’t even hear him yeah no it was it was not a good show in that song yeah I don’t think it showed off Beso Pluma’s singing skills either he sounded kind of nasally to me which I guess is kind of his vibe like he kind of has that weird type of high-pitched sound where it’s almost nasally but I don’t know maybe it grew on people it doesn’t really grow on me no I feel like he needs I think they’re in their like delusions maybe yeah yeah they’re in their delusions and they’re not like oh they’re looking at the person the artist and not listening to the music yeah like oh my gosh Beso Pluma and Kanye West like this is gonna be yeah yeah exactly let me let me like hype the song up but no in reality no that’s an outlier feature right there but rest of the features they did that they did yeah and the the thing that bugged me is like the the original Last Breath that he had released with the sample I think it’s like a Cuban artist way better like he didn’t do the sample justice then that was the other thing because you’re listening to it with the ear of like I already heard the sample so I know what that sounds like and even the sample has like a deeper tone like doesn’t have that nasally quality so I’m like I don’t know and in that old version I feel like I I just listened to it like a minute minutes ago and I felt like that old version it was like it was like a whole lot of not not nothing it was just like more um like more original in a sense of like there’s not too many things going on but it’s just simple like the right right right the beat beats wise and I feel like it suited the album more because the album is kind of like sample heavy with some like raw more raw vocals yeah rather than like Beso Pluma trying to sing in like a chorus and then sing on his verse so I feel like the original Last Breath there must have been like a sample issue like releasing the sample or something because I don’t know why he would why he would have done that like when the sample sounded so good already I feel like it had to be like a sample like yeah I think he’s he got a couple of sample issues with like maybe he got blocked because I know like the UK had blocked him from performing yeah so maybe the the artist was like no I don’t even want you to use my sample like your drama yeah but yeah Beso Pluma I don’t know I feel like he could have helped him with the Spanish a little bit more too maybe giving him like a Spanish lesson yeah that’s what I’m saying I’d like more interesting um Spanish verse yeah or Kanye West but but then again Beso Pluma might need some voice lessons too you gotta figure out how to open up that nasal passage yeah they need to give each other lessons for sure but let’s talk about the production yeah yeah that was samples of course that’s Kanye’s thing like he’s gonna get clean samples and they’re gonna sound sick he knows how to establish a a well-defining um production within an album but I mean I’ll give him the the beat productions there but that’s different than like the audio engineering mixing side yeah there’s some technical side yeah like the EQing and stuff I think he needed some help with that side because obviously one man’s job is yeah yeah can be too much for someone like Kanye West yeah which maybe um I think there’s some guy Mike that had a word counselor Mike um Mike Breen Mike Mike Dean yeah maybe he should have connected with yeah people are saying that he should be the one that like goes into studio like fix all this audio technical issue stuff I feel like he lost that person like he lost the person that was like that master in mixing person yeah awfully they’re cool with each other again so that Mike Dean can actually like settle yeah Kanye was down and clean all this mess that he that he made but yeah the the sample and the beats wise it was interesting interesting fun original authentic it was just crispy like it was refreshing refreshing for Kanye West yeah we haven’t gotten like that type of production in a while like that raw just samples just raw lyrics like just going in going in passionately yep all right um what else you got what else you got oh last thoughts for bully I mean it’s a step in the right direction for Kanye West I felt like this album it I think it’s not complete and obviously you know in the past Kanye West did have like incomplete albums like life of a Pablo or like yeah he did drop that album but it wasn’t finished and he did some like editing as months go by and I feel like in this case he’s gonna oh hopefully he’s hopefully he’s gonna make some changes as the months go by and get some feedback from the fans and the people around the circle but I felt like yeah it’s the right direction for Kanye West I was gonna ask too like do you feel like the drop was confusing the drop yeah like when he dropped it randomly yeah because I feel like I almost feel like didn’t this drop already and then it did actually drop and I was confused almost I think maybe he dropped it on YouTube or maybe I think yeah right like because I was listening to some songs and I was like wait why do I feel like I’ve heard this maybe with the listening parties the Kanye West listening parties that he would do and like the Asian countries I’m pretty sure yeah and then it’d probably get leaked or something yeah it’s probably like his past concerts or people leaking because I swear I saw something on YouTube too that was like the whole album released already and then it got like taken down right away it was like when all the like WWE stuff was going on it’s like he released it like a video with like you know how he has that video with uh his kid like beating up all the wrestlers with the hammer yeah he had originally released it on YouTube as like a year ago like oh yeah like a long time ago like months ago and like it got up for an hour it was up for an hour and then got taken down right away and then that’s when all the drama started happening about like him going off and on like the industry and stuff with like the WWE tracks and shit initial leaks feature of he featured a visual film and shared on Twitter all the tracks yeah so that’s what I was saying like was the drop confusing yeah well I mean maybe if you’re paying attention if you weren’t maybe you just kind of like waited for the official drop I know I was like at that time when Kanye West was like going in a crazy rant oh you dropped him no I was like I don’t want to know like what’s going on with him okay I feel you see I’ve never I’m like one of those fans that’s like you can never make me hate Kanye even the whole Taylor Swift thing when that happened like I was I was like I was alive for that you know you’re alive yeah so I was like even then when all the little Swifties were mad like I was like be mad bro stay mad like I thought it was funny yeah and like yeah you can never like when they try to cancel him for the George boosting like Hurricane Katrina like I wasn’t mad about that like that was that’s Kanye West man and sometimes you’re gonna have that moment where like yeah it’s controversial but you know he’s gonna bounce back at some point but that’s it with um bullies okay bully now it’s a matchup all right this is ADL let’s go let’s go let’s go let’s let’s pick pick apart each album’s flaws so let’s start with ADL what are the flaws the biggest flaws content lyricism content lyricism okay and for me it would have to be it’s a long album you know it’s an hour and an hour and two minutes like there are some filler stuff in there yes perfect filler songs I feel like he should put those filler songs in this um document where they should have put them in the vault like okay yeah yeah let me see drop them later songs like dangerous house I don’t need that one yeah dangerous tonight I don’t need that one naked I don’t need that one naked is terrible I’m not gonna lie not good the first three tracks I don’t need those lose control yeah lose control I I saw I see the vision like trying to experiment with that song but it didn’t work literally if he would have just kept like the section of griddle what I want live like this taller like he would have been it would have made more sense yeah and yeah and uh the flow of the album too it’s just like like in the first like couple songs like pretty good but as like you listen to it as you progressively like listen to the album it is it gets draining it does get draining like it doesn’t give like my interest intact like it makes my interest going down on my energy going down as the album like it doesn’t spark your mind you know what I mean like like you’re listening to it and you get almost like annoyed of them yeah yeah it’s like you’re listening like to the album like you’re listening to someone brag and you’re like shut up already bro like we get it you’re rich yeah that’s okay I let me see I have another flaw um yeah many filler songs and he just he repeats the same subject matter matter over and over again yeah like the lyrics actually going like going about like what what what he deals with it then like his music yeah life and his personal life and oh and also there isn’t that many rage music in this album right right right yeah that’s what’s missing because yeah like loco on because I think I even like dangerous summer more than this album yeah for me personally I tend for to go for um rage music in me but that’s what he’s going for it’s like the high crazy yeah like intense energy yeah but this song is like like you can barely see that but it’s more like some chill like like visionary and yeah some other stuff that’s what I’m saying like it’s almost borderline boring boring yeah that’s that’s the flaw within all right what about flaws for bully for me the floss or bully like I was saying the mixes some of the the mixes are like it needs to work on the on the engineering aspect of it but that’s just me and my ear too um and I think just that just the mixes uh and then like it sounds kind of rough unfinished yeah so maybe just clean it up refine it a little bit more yeah I feel like majority of the songs are like not finished like some are like a minute or 30 seconds or a minute and 60 seconds like I feel like in those songs he should act he should um put more like put more verses into those songs so that it can be a complete song and my other flaw is it’s just an incomplete album and I understand that it’s Kanye West he’s done this before yeah but he just needs to I think it is doable to fix yeah that’s what I was about to say it’s doable because that Andre attractment out or songs like there is that build-up of like it starts slow all of a sudden he starts rapping and then boom you get a big chorus with some singing and then back to like he has that where he can fill up a song with like four different acts almost like four different styles in one song yeah so it’s not like it’s not possible yeah he’s just gotta put in the work yeah that’s what it is at the end of the day but that’s the flaws now let’s go with the positives with each album so let’s start with I’ll start with 80 out um there’s some gems in the album you know griddle dance all over and I eat that chemistry is in and intense and it’s it’s like it’s like hitting that gasoline and when you step on the pedal and you go from like zero miles per hour to like a hundred yeah and then uh on back hump ye and joji you know I don’t really listen to joji that much but recently you know I’ve been I’ve been paying attention to jojo music he’s a great artist he’s a up-and-coming artist I’m pretty sure right yeah yeah and yeah ye and joji yeah that that that dude was pretty surprising to see for me because I don’t really like listen to ye and joji in one song but I feel like they do have a great chemistry yeah and joji has a particular vibe to him yeah it’s like chill kind of that yearning vibe yeah exactly for the yearners I will give it to ye he has some he has some bangers I ain’t gonna lie yeah with um back home silk face um real life crap uh my way and griddle those are some bangers yeah yeah that’s that’s my and another positive is production I feel like it’s pretty good for once yeah for once yeah I feel like they’re almost opposites that’s why it’s such a good head to head because with Kanye you don’t have the the production and the the mixing but you have the lyricism and then when ye you have like that interesting sound like these wild like sounds popping out of nowhere but then the lyrics aren’t there so he’ll say like how like how but then all of a sudden some weird like start happening like how all he said was how like that’s the whole song would just be out yeah and then it’ll be like like all these crazy sounds and it’s like damn bro if you would have said something cooler it would have been really cool would have been a cool it would have been interesting like thing to hear for once yeah so it’s like the sounds are interesting but the lyricism isn’t there and then the other way around for for the bully one so that’s why I think it’s a good head-to-head and I guess then it depends on like your target market like if you’re a young kid that just wants to like I don’t know be on like special hits yeah yeah bob your head and not be introspective and deep then listen to ye but if you want to just sit down like actually like consume like what the first the artist is saying then you go for or maybe even be a part of like a cultural movement almost like you almost feel like you’re part of a movement when Kanye like like you’re listening to a part of history almost like what he’s talking about like he’s spitting facts so but then maybe it could be like an age thing too like maybe the the older heads are into Kanye because they want something to think about and then the younger people are like man I don’t want to think I just want to escape like I just want to hear some crazy sounds and throw my headphones on like maybe that is it depends what type of vibe you’re on that what type of album you’re gonna pick up yeah that’s another positive thing with from bully as well it’s engaging for not only the older um Kanye West folks but for anyone like anyone can realistically like listen to this album and come out and be like you know what yeah this this listening experience was actually um yeah good it was good like I was joking around earlier I was like which one is your mom listen to yeah exactly your mom would probably listen to Kanye I know some moms out there are bumping um yeah that’s what I’m saying I don’t know any moms know yeet yeah no no not everyone not everyone’s gonna bump and bump not everyone’s gonna bump on ADL and yeah because that soundscape is pretty perplexed comp complicated yeah but yeah um let’s go song for song now all right let’s see your top five um ADL versus your top five booty go I don’t even know if I have five radio all right uh griddle I like those those three right the griddle what I want and live like this and then probably the Joji one and then back home to end it um I don’t even know dude uh uh yeah I don’t I don’t because I like Kid Cudi’s part on no more ghost but I don’t like you like completely ruined that like I wish it was just Kid Cudi’s song but like it was cool that he brought him out yeah literally literally imagine like you look at the track list and then there’s just one song where it’s only Kid Cudi like only Kanye would do some something like that yeah like where he had that Frank Ocean track and it was only Frank Ocean like that’s what he should have done he should have done he should have pushed his ego aside and be like you know bro take over that good singer maybe yeah something like that that wouldn’t work either no it is not a good singer uh yeah I’m just gonna say those then the griddle what I want live like this I’ll sneak in no more ghost and then back home back home yeah what about for bully for bully that’s a little easier for me I like um preacher man preacher I like beauty and the beast I like the one with uh Andre Troutman was it the white love there’s two oh yeah yeah all the love and then let me bring up that track list I’m missing some punch drunk has been like like I’ve been vibing more and more as I listen to and I like the original last breath but I can’t put breath on that he got ruined so beauty and the beast preacher man um honestly I like white lines too so white lines and all the love um you just combine that as one song yeah maybe and then uh um Heisenlob is kind of boring which one’s the one that’s oh this is the sisters and brothers you know what I kind of like this one here the this one here is papa all the ends done though yeah song yeah I like the singing I like the singing yeah like Kanye West was really digging yeah yeah it was really like like going through yeah see like those five I feel like that has more like more people could listen to those five like if I show those five tracks to like 10 different types of people like from all different backgrounds I feel like they’ll vibe with those 10 with those five more off the bully then if I show them the five off ADL they’re gonna have like more like they’re gonna have to like listen to more of that ADL songs because I’m not gonna understand it initially but if you listen to bully initially then you’re gonna get like gain a little sense of like oh yeah like this is a structured um song yeah and and they’re different vibes like each one oh like with ADL they kind of are the same like once you hear one you kind of heard them all on ADL yeah but which which songs which five songs do you prefer the ADL top five bully bully bully for sure bully no question yeah I believe okay okay then we mentioned mine um standout songs uh back home joji it’s like a it’s like out of body experience I’ve been seeing like videos on tiktok they are like milking his song already yeah like making like Lebron James clip they’re making a Lebron James edit of like um where he is right now and then like 10 years ago like when he was like a Miami heat player or no cast player um another one silk face it’s like a spacey spacey like futuristic um soundscape I really like the vibe on that song um another song as well griddle don’t tolerate that’s the one I like too yeah oh yeah yeah like that like obviously they’re talking about like she moving moving moving like a woman obviously like more body or whatever like the content it’s not cringe yeah it’s not cringe it’s like like my head is like bumping like I’m actually like gravitating to this sound a song yeah and another song live like this it it it did kind of give me that um rage not rage hype yeet music yeah gave me a little bit glimpse of it that I really wanted to see is he is he turning cringe is he turning I think he’s like a hot take is he turning cringe I think he is right yeah he’s like selling down to like the mainstream what the mainstream yeah like instead of what the like his actual fans want I guess and that can be cringe I guess no one expected him to not be a sellout he would always talk about selling his soul and stuff yeah and then the last song piece of fame I felt like young boy he did his thing he finally got a yeah listenable and good feature for one it took him three years four years it took him so many years but yeah those are my top five ndl songs now with bully all the love like it gets me going like the more and the more I listen the energy is there on the energy is there like like it actually like touches my heart like I don’t even know how but it’s just one of those Kanye West songs where it just touches like like your soul whatever but preacher man that’s a I think that’s the most complete song off of bully really more than the Andre Troutman one yes okay it’s it’s so consistent no Kanye West did his thing with his verses yeah yeah he did his thing on that song and that’s what I’m saying like he could go deep and still sound cool like it’s not cringy like he could talk about like God and religion and it’s not cringy it’s not like that he’s not trying too hard he’s not trying to he’s really introspective yeah he’s just saying what it is and another song father I mean the chemistry yeah yeah um Travis Scott and Kanye West it reminded me of black skin but it’s not really yeah the same type of vibe with the drums like it gets me going like yeah such a hype song um then and then the other song punch drunk apparently Northwest produced that song I’m not too sure yeah I heard that’s true or not but if she did well they probably cleaned it up clean they probably cleaned it up yeah they gave like Northwest like a lot yeah yeah give some credit yeah yeah give some credit because I’ve heard um Pink Panther is like it’s kind of the same like she’ll you know how she works in her bedroom yeah like she’ll cook up a beat but then she’ll send it to the studio and they’ll kind of clean it up for her and then send it back could that be that case yeah I can see that because no way Northwest produced that on her phone or something yeah yeah yeah no but that was vintage yay and like a screeching soul sample and that’s punch drunk and it’s it kind of sucks that like it’s a two-minute song but I mean it was enough for me I guess but yeah that’s enough for me yeah and then the last song the last the last song this one here it just Kanye was getting real like yeah no no bs he just talks about like like kick out the eagle right off the door like he’s being like he’s being personal in this song yep yep yeah those are my top five and as for hold up which one I would rather pick um at this point it had to be Bully but it just depends on the day and the vibe you know like if I want to be like hype or whatever like ADL but like I want to I want to listen to something like if I want to actually listen to something and just sit down and just like consume the music then yeah obviously Bully so maybe to to actively listen you’re trying to listen to Kanye but if you want some background background music like to get you going then ADL for sure okay but now let’s go for favorite beat and sample you can go first what’s your favorite beat and sample from ADL from ADL there’s samples on ADL huh um with the Kid Cudi’s not a sample he’s like a he’s a feature a feature because like what would be a I don’t even know what samples Elton John that one song um because he’s the only one that’s a that’s a sample Lose Control he used the Elton John song or in yeah I don’t know I’m not really too familiar with the samples in ADL I’m not gonna lie I mean my as far as my favorite beat uh I like the the Griddle Beat Griddle Beat yeah and I feel like Don Toliver might have had some some production on that one I definitely I’m pretty sure you did I don’t know if there’s there’s oh actually the beginning there’s a there’s like a choir thing that sounds like the beginning of like a Kanye album or I think it might be the last song it’s either the first one or the last I think it might be the first one is it this one hold on like it’s literally the very beginning I don’t know it’s a choir yeah something like that it’s like the beginning of one we’re gonna we’re gonna try to find it I think it’s the very first one General Purpose like Purpose General yeah Purpose General the very beginning yeah is this one this is a sick intro by the way is that this one I think so that the oh it kind of sounds like Blood on the Leaves or yeah is this one that’s yeah is that the L John one oh yeah okay then yeah that one that beat yeah that’d be um you could you could also put that as a sample as well that’s what I’m saying that sample so the the griddle beat but that sample okay oh okay I understand I understand and then for Bully it’s crazy um for Bully I like um what is it Beauty and the Beast for yeah Beauty and the Beast which one is that it’s been a long time coming yeah yeah that that that beat right there is like it’s like if you’re in a dream I don’t know yeah like and then the sample there and you’re put me down put me down what song is that put me down that’s Beauty and the Beast oh oh oh okay oh so you’re saying the beat and sample or just the beat that’s your favorite sample too um nah it’s my favorite sample for beat uh yeah that sample’s clean and crispy I like the Spanish beat of the Last Breath and that’s why it pissed me off that Peso Paloma didn’t hit it yeah because I wanted to like that song so bad originally it was a Cuban like a Cuban um like group because I never heard Kanye do a Spanish type that you hear like that tambourine like the I don’t think he’s ever written a Spanish that’s what I’m saying like that’s why I like the original song but yeah no I got I wanted to like it so bad yeah so because the beat and it’s funny because that’s my least favorite song but my favorite beat yeah all right what about you favorite beat off of ADL and favorite sample off ADL hold on I got it right here my favorite ADL beat is um favorite ADL beat where is it oh back home I mean it just it just puts you back in like auto body experience yeah and like it just makes you want to like think about like like reflecting back I don’t know it just puts you in like a reflection mood if that makes sense that’s my favorite beat um my favorite sample would have to be My Time I didn’t expect um you to have a a Swiss Beats um sample you know Swiss Beats is like a legendary from the 2000s and I just felt like the sample it got it it was well like well well done and yeah that’s my favorite sample and for 8 Bully all the love beat I mean yeah you have like the start of it is like it’s like the build-up the build-up yeah like the intro is the build-up and then like throughout like the middle portion of it it’s like it’s like uptempo and it gets you going it’s like it’s like hooking you almost and then the ending with the synths and and the synths concluding the song it just feels like a complete beat in my opinion yeah and yeah because it has so many different like sounds too like the build up the climax the fall down the fall down yeah exactly yep and then for example Preacher Man yeah I mean like I was I was debating between that one and with Beauty and the Beast and Preacher Man like let me play the first 10 seconds of it yeah like I love when he does that where it’s like it cuts off and repeats that like that thing and then it goes back to the like I could picture him like hitting the drum but you know what I mean like hitting the sample button like in the studio just like he was cooking yeah and then the ending as well let me just play a little bit of it yeah and then the claps come in yeah like that that’s yeah that’s my answer right there like it like it doesn’t that’s like an example do you know what the original one for that is like I wonder if he pitched it up like I wonder how the original sounds let me see Preacher Man sample original then I’ll pull up the song Preacher Man original sample it’s got to be something like the 50s Son of a Preacher Man yeah that’s the song when did that drop it’s got to be like the 50s yeah that’s what I’m saying yeah Son of a Preacher Man we’ll just like play this for a little bit like he probably had the vinyl record I’m not sure that’s the right song no it probably was you just have to find the right part yeah I don’t know this probably is a song he might even chop the words probably like picked a certain um like a certain like audio in that yeah like a certain clip a certain clip and he might even chopped it so it says something else like originally might have said something else and then he chopped it up to say something new yeah so that’s it for favorite beat and sample so now we’re gonna decide which is the better album which album takes the top and be crowned the best album between the two what do you got ADL or Bully I mean by now it should seem pretty obvious I’m gonna go with like when I when I go in the car even like preparing for this podcast like when I would go into the car and be like all right I have to listen to ADL or Bully I’m gonna start off with Bully like I looked forward more to listening to Bully and especially in the car like driving like uh while I’m working and stuff like on homework and stuff like yeah I’d go to Bully like if I were to to hit the ADL it would only be like to just listen to the Joji song real quick or like maybe Don Toliver’s song real quick like how are you gonna sound like a feature on your own album yeah you know what I mean so like yeah I’d have to go for a whole album the whole album I gotta go with Bully go with Bully okay I would I would also go with Bully but for ADL like yeah like he has some like great songs like it gets you going and then like there’s some other ones where it’s like chill but it’s like you can only listen to so much to the point where like you’re like um like fatigue yeah exactly and with Bully like it just keeps you interesting from like start to finish and even if you like listen to it multiple like times now yeah like it doesn’t it’s not it’s not it doesn’t drain me like I’m still like engaged with the album I’m like trying to learn like more about this album it keeps it keeps you engaged personally from yeah and Kanye makes it easy to separate the artist from the art yeah his art’s so good yeah it makes it easy you can’t deny it’s great like imagine Yeet started doing some crazy wild staying some wild stuff trying to get canceled I don’t know if he could stay has that staying power the same way Kanye does he has that much um stableness yeah but yeah those were our favorite no favorite those were better albums now what do you think what’s next for Yeet and Kanye West now okay what what what should Yeet do in order to bounce back from this deficit I feel like Yeet’s got to explore that Joji sound that he found like that different sort of like he’s either got to take a step back and be like oh let me get a little more like I don’t know like chill mellow introspective sad type of Joji vibe because I need it I feel like uh it’s played out already like the lane he’s in like he needs to hop over to like he needs to switch lanes switch lanes yeah switch lanes to either something more lit something wilder where you’re gonna go crazy in concerts maybe even rock and roll I don’t know or something more like oh no this ain’t for concerts this is finally like chilling back actually writing some stuff down that’s like because he’s been in the industry for a minute I feel like so it’s like maybe he’s learned some stuff or maybe there’s some lessons that’s like he could teach like you know what I mean like he’s got to sit down and like write something that’s more than just like I do what I want and I hook up with girls and I do drugs yeah and the songs need to be listenable on like too slimy with his songs oh god no no no one don’t even mention that bro I’m gonna bleep that oh yeah yeah well my advice for ye I think he needs to get like an executive producer or like a inner circle where like they’re like say yo bro like this this thing ain’t cutting it like you gotta like like I don’t know redefine yourself or something like you just need someone like some guidance yeah almost no maybe like um oh you know it’d be sick you know how like I feel like future kind of went through this or maybe drake even yeah and then find a sick collab to do a duo album with and that’ll rehype like yeah that would like because I got tired of future’s sound for a little bit but then when he started doing those collab albums with like drake metro booming or something like young thug yeah yeah yeah so like when he did those oh the little uzi one yeah like the space one so like that I feel like opened up a new it was refreshing opened up a new sound it got both of their fans hyped so maybe I feel like it’s time for that maybe like a big a biggie collab album oh yeah yeah I think I think that’s about to happen that’d be it that’d be a collab album I feel you on that one yeah and then my advice for ye you know just keep doing his thing you know his out this bully album I it’s it’s obviously incomplete he just gotta you know fix his audio issues yeah I make the songs complete and you just gotta be stay don’t don’t be in any more yeah I was gonna say that’s asking a lot from Kanye that’s asking a lot no more just settle down lock in don’t put your ego aside put your pride aside and just I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s possible I don’t think it’s I think it’s like asking a race car to to not go 100 you know it’s like telling a NASCAR driver to slow down like it’s Kanye bro he’s not gonna slow down he’s not gonna stop he’s not gonna listen to you at the end of the day he’s gonna do what he feels like exactly do at the end of the day but yeah that’s our advice and yeah well my my advice to Kanye same thing same thing I feel like he’s got to reconnect with Mike Dean or something reconnect with a sick engineer that he’ll listen to like an engineer that he respects or something yeah that’s what I’m saying like someone that he’ll actually listen to when he tells him like you know no you got to EQ it like this and use this as a reference or something like to clean up the tracks that’s the only that’s my only advice for him all right all right and that will be it for the head to head battle Bully is the winner now let me know what you guys think who is which one is the better album ADL or Bully and what are your thoughts about those albums this has been the mix and we’ll catch you on the next drop deuces in the mix student-led podcast is published every wednesday on your favorite podcast platforms if you’re a csub student or staff and would like to be on the podcast email m j o r g e one at csub.edu and contact us to Thanks for joining the conversation.
