Episode 2: Spooky Series: Guardian Spirits, Animals, and Dreams
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TRANSCRIPT:
[Taylor Redstone]: Hello, hello, this is Taylor Redstone, and this is the second installment of our spooky series here at The Runner. Today I am sitting here with Melisa Magana and Evelyn Gallardo, and we are going to be sharing some spooky stories once again and I really hope you enjoy the episode!
[Taylor Redstone]: So, it was about the start of the pandemic, I ended up losing my job. It went out of business. So, I ended up getting this, I got called for this interview for this place called Pizzaville, and it’s on Oak Street, and it’s been around since like the 60s so it’s, you know, a pretty popular place that a lot of Bakersfield people know, and I guess it used to be really popular in like the 80s just a lot of, you know, stories that people have about Pizzaville. But, so, I go to this interview, and he tells me, like, I’m the first girl that that he’s going to hire in 15 years. And so, I kind of thought that was weird. I was like, “oh”, but I was like, “OK, it’s fine.” Like, I kind of just wanted, you know, to have a job. And so, I get there and, you know, all the coworkers, like when I first started I kind of being weird They’re kind of like, “Oh, did you tell her yet? Did you have you guys mentioned like tell her we don’t deliver?” And so, like I kind of just thought they were like messing around, and I didn’t really think much of it. But one time, I felt like something hit my ponytail and it like I thought I was like, I thought I maybe hit something like the wall or maybe like I did it, but like I was nowhere near anything It’s like something like hit it, and so I kind of thought that was weird and I ended up telling someone that had been working there for like, you know, 20 or 30 years at that point since he was like 14 and he’s like, “oh, yeah The original owner who was the father of the owner, the current one. He really didn’t want girls to work there.” So…
[Melisa Magana]: He never said why though?
[Taylor Redstone]: He never said why, I guess he was just like anti-woman. It’s a very like, you know, macho environment. Like, just very, you know what I mean?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: So, he was like, maybe he’s mad and he hit your ponytail. Like, you know, he’s a little mad there’s a girl around here. So, I kind of thought that was silly. But then finally, someone said, okay, tell her why we don’t deliver it. And so, in 1997, there was a worker there, and they get this call for this delivery. And he makes it, he takes it there, and he gets killed. Like, you know, when he gets there, you know, the people open the door and literally get stabbed, like, multiple times. And this was, you know, before cell phones. So, like, he got to his car, and he drove a little bit, but he ended up just dying in the car. So, they, from then on, they never delivered. And from then on, there was a weird sort of energy of the space. It just, there was just a…co-workers that were there, in fact, they described it as, like, it just felt wrong for everyone to be there, but they kind of all just stayed there. And, you know, things started happening from there. You know, doors would open, they’d get weird calls. And it was just, you know, there’s just all sort of just lots of weird stuff. So, then it kind of starts getting worse. And co-workers, ended up fighting all the time. Customers are voicing and saying, “oh, is this place haunted?” We start, all of our co-workers start having these dreams. Literally glass, it would be like a glass sitting there, and it would just explode in itself. It wouldn’t fall, it would just, you know, it was just not, like there was just a very, like, something was going on. And a lot of these people were very skeptical, didn’t believe any of this, and they would just get like so scared. And one time I was in the bathroom, and it didn’t have a lock or anything, but I was trying to open it and I couldn’t get out.
[Melisa Magana & Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh!!
[Taylor Redstone]: So, it was like suction, like it was like pressure. And then I had pressure in my head and my ears. Like I just like it was, just like, almost like… like it almost felt like I was underwater. Like it was just different like and then, so I was banging on the door people were trying to open it, you know, I was freaked out.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I would have been crying.
[Taylor Redstone]: So finally, I just like panicked. I was just like, “STOP” I just yelled, “STOP PLEASE” and it just flung open.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That’s so creepy, I would have quit, Taylor.
[Melisa Magana]: I know!
[Taylor Redstone]: I ended up eventually quitting because it was just… worse and worse things would happen. There’d be freak accidents, like we’d fall, you know, just, it was just not good. So, yeah, a lot of us did quit, and a lot of us still have dreams of that place to this day, like we think that it’s we work there.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That is horrible!
[Melisa Magana]: What was the dream of, do you remember?
[Taylor Redstone]: I had this one dream where, it was a day we were all fighting, and we have this one co-worker he was he’s from like I can’t remember where, I think he’s from Texas or something but in the dream, we were all like, just, everybody was fighting like we were in real life. And he goes, “who’s that?” Like he has this little accent. And so, we all look and it’s a goat head in the middle of like the where the corners converge in like a ceiling. It’s just like a black goat head just like observing. And the scariest thing is that I was in this the storage closet once and we have these like seasonings like this brand and it was like black sheep seasoning and I was like what?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That’s so weird!
[Taylor Redstone]: And then like other another co-worker had a dream about a goat like a black goat and so it’s just really like…
[Melisa Magana]: That’s scary.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, and when it comes to scary stories, animals always play a bigger role.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, I wonder what like sheep mean, like what do they symbolize?
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, because like, you know, it’s a scary thing…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Especially a black sheep.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, it’s always a black animal.
[All]: Yeah!
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah. There’s this one movie, like “The Witch”, where there’s like a black goat in it and he’s like… the devil.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, because isn’t the devil like symbolized like hooves and stuff?
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh my god. That’s so creepy.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, so that was have dreams these days. It’s it was definitely like a scary place to work.
[Melisa Magana]: Going back to work, I just remember a story. One time one of my co-workers at my current job, he, it was already closing time, and he went to the restroom, because he needed obviously to go to the restroom, but he was also going to check if nobody was there, because there’s times that customers go in the restroom, and we don’t even notice. So, we always check. So, he wanted to check, and before going in, he, he opened the door, and he asked, “Is there was anybody in there?” and somebody responded, “what?” Oh my god, like everybody got the chills, and I was like right there behind him because I was like fixing a couple stuff, and he just turned around and looked at me and he’s like, “did you hear that? And I was like, “no, what? And he was like, “somebody just answered.” And when he told me that, oh my God, even right now, like I got the chills. That was so scary. And after that, like a couple of things started going on that they, like, after they told me that, on the break, sorry, not the break room, the stock room, they’re like those doors that you push them and they like, like they kind of flop, like they open, I don’t know what’s in all those doors, but my old supervisor, she was in there, and she was the only one there, and the doors opened by itself, and like there’s camera footage, I never saw it, but there’s camera footage of the doors opening by itself. It’s so scary.
[Taylor Redstone]: Especially when it’s on camera too, like, you know, you see it.
[Melisa Magana]: I wish could have seen it, but they never showed it to me, so.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah. I don’t know. I think like, I hear a lot of stories about like, people working and like, having scary things happen. Things happen. I was dog sitting once and one of the dogs was like, blind and deaf. And, it kept like, it was looking at something. And I’m like, okay, if you’re seeing that, and you can’t even see, like it just, it made me really scared.
[Melisa Magana]: I know!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Well, you just reminded me when you said about dogs was looking at something. When I was younger, it was just me and my sister. My parents, obviously, but before my brother was born. When my sister was small, she would always mention a man in the house. And I remember, like, even when, because I’ve always been kind of skeptical about things, so even when I was younger, I was kind of like, eh, like she sees things, you know? Then I remember this one time, and I don’t remember if I was in school at the time yet or not, but I remember, I was like in the kitchen and then I just heard my mom like ask my sister, “What are you looking at?” and I like looked, like peeked over to the living room and she was like sitting in front of the door like to the outside, and she was just staring, and then my mom was like, “What are you looking at?” And then she was like, “Did you not see that man?” Like and my mom like opened the door and there was like no guy, and so then my mom was like, “Oh maybe like somebody had knocked and I didn’t hear,” but there was no man. So, like to this day, I don’t know what she saw, or if it was a, if it was an actual person, or she saw the man that she said was in our house
[Melisa Magana]: That is so scary.
[Taylor Redstone]: Well like they say that children can kind of pick up on it more.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, and like now I think back on it and it’s like, because that wasn’t the first or only instance, So like now I think back on it and I’m like, you know, maybe she did see something. But they don’t talk about it anymore. So, I just leave it be.
[Melisa Magana]: I have a story going back to children. Um, my mom’s grandmother when she was younger, she liked to play hide and seek. So, I mean, and I don’t know if it’s just like a Hispanic belief, but like we believe that if you play hide and seek at night, it’s like bad. Because you can encounter like bad spirits or even like the devil.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: So, my mom’s grandmother, she was playing hide and seek with her friends and cousins. And she decided to hide like in this junkyard where it had like a bunch of cars. She was hiding there, and when she was waiting for, like, if she was ever going to find her. She saw a big black dog, but it wasn’t she said it was not a normal dog. It was scary, and she literally, like she confirms that the dog was like throwing like flames from his eyes. So, he had red vivid eyes like throwing flames, which is like super scary, so she got scared. She like, obviously, like she left but um she I guess that she cut her finger, and she had a scar. That’s what my mom said, I never actually saw it. Yeah, so that’s very scary.
[Taylor Redstone]: That sounds like a hellhound!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh, you’ve heard of that?
[Melisa Magana]: No! What is it?
[Taylor Redstone]: It’s like a…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I’ve only heard of it on TV shows.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah! It’s supposedly like a… I guess like a… You know, like a demonic dog really like I got you know a dog from hell that kind of like you know carries out business, I guess.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, I don’t know, if you guys have ever seen “Teen Wolf,” that’s, that’s where I saw it. It’s like a guy, he was like a normal guy…
[Taylor Redstone]: He was the cop right?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, it was the cop,
[Melisa Magana]: and then he would turn into a dog?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: He would turn into like a like a hell dog.
[Taylor Redstone]: It would be flames!
[Melisa Magana]: Well, I mean, then it’s confirmed that it’s real.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: She saw it!
[Taylor Redstone]: And how would she know? She hadn’t even probably heard what that is so.
[Melisa Magana]: But I mean, it’s believed that if your parents tell you to not go and play hide and seek at night, something bad happens, and her mom told her to not go play. So, she didn’t listen, and she won’t play, and that’s what happened to her. So, they kind of say, like, it’s a punishment because you’re not obeying your parents.
[Taylor Redstone]: But yeah, those stories are always scary because it’s like, you know, you never think, like, oh, this one little disobey is gonna… Yeah, oh my gosh.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, oh my gosh, and it literally marked her for life because she had that scar.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That’s the creepiest part to me, that she had a scar.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, I never saw it, but my mom said that she had a scar. I don’t know if it was like her finger or her hand, but it was like on her body.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, it’s crazy, because it kind of goes back to like you’re getting punished for not listening to you, so you have that for life.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, that’s true!
[All]: (Unintelligible)
[Taylor Redstone]: You never think you’re gonna hear anything like that. Because like, you know, there’s people that have like they see their like apparitions, but when there’s something that’s like specific, that’s like crazy. Oh my gosh.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yea that is a little…
[Melisa Magana]: I feel like its huge in Mexico.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: No, yeah. I hear a lot of things that happen in Mexico. I remember the first year that I went to Mexico, I stayed with my dad’s younger sister’s. So, at the time they were still like early 20’s, they were younger, they’re like our age, but I was like nine, so I stayed in their room with them, and they would tell us like, “Oh don’t go outside at night because, like oh La Llorona is out there,” you know. And again, I was a very skeptical little kid, so I was like, “Yeah right!” And they were like, “No seriously, like don’t, don’t. Like just, at night you sleep and that’s it.” And I remember I woke up one day and I opened their curtain, but in Mexico, the windows are kind of higher. So, I was standing on the bed, and I saw like a figure, but again, I don’t know. It could have been a person. And then I just remember I was like, “no way!” So, like, I kept trying to see, but then I bonked my head against the window because like, you know, I couldn’t, and then like my aunts woke up and they were like, “What are you doing?” And then I went back to sleep. But yeah. So yeah, that’s like in Mexico, like I hear a lot of stories.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like folklore.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: There’s also, what’s it called? It’s kind of similar to the dog thing. It’s like a chupacabra.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh yeah!
[Taylor Redstone]: I thought I saw one White Lane, but it could have been a coyote. I don’t know, maybe it wasn’t one, but it looked a little rough. And I think I was mentioning before, the Father Garces thing.
[Melisa Magana]: Oh, I noticed!
[Taylor Redstone]: The Garces Circle. So, supposedly, this is a like a, an actual story in history. You know, it was like Father Garces, and he had this like, I can’t remember if it was an assistant or something, but they were just like in their… I think they were actually in their homes. And the conquistadors came, and they said like, “Okay, come out here.” They were basically telling him like, “Come on!” And he was like, “okay, just let me finish my chocolate first.” And then he came out and he got killed, and so did his person. So, they say that if you drive like at like you know the middle of the night, and you have like a cup of hot chocolate that he’ll like kind of give you a wink or kind of, you know, because it’s that statue. But also, that statue has been seen on like accidents.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: The Garces Circle?
[Taylor Redstone]: Like praying for, for…Because it’s a pretty…Yeah, the Garces Circle is kind of where, it’s right where you get before the Kern County Museum. It’s like a little past downtown is where it’s at. And so, yeah, there’s been a lot of accidents there and people have, there’s been multiple like accounts of seeing this like statue, like, you know, like praying for people or like, you know, just all sorts of things like that so…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Have you guys, I don’t know if this is off topic, but have you guys heard, I saw on TikTok, of like when people get into like really bad accidents, they see like their like an angel.
[All]: Yes! Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: The Second Man Syndrome!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: What is it called?
[Taylor Redstone]: The Second Man syndrome?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I forgot what it was called.
[Taylor Redstone]: Where there’s someone there that’s like kind of helping them and…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, yeah, and they swear they see it but once they’re like they come to, like there was no, never a person there.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, I believe in those.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I believe in that too.
[Taylor Redstone]: Because, like, there’s too many people that have these stories…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: …like different scenarios too, like even like there was one person where like they were like where an avalanche was going to be and like someone told him to move. So it’s not just, you know like places where it can be other people, like it’s…
[Melisa Magana]: That is so true because I have another story. My dad told me that back in Mexico in that area that he’s from, that that happened. It’s like a very lonely area, but the roads are like very like bad. So, it was a son and a dad. They were both on taxi drivers, and they were both on different taxis. So, on their way back home, the son was like ahead of the father because he was going like a little too fast, so the dad was trying to catch up to the son, but he was never able to. He gets home, the dad gets home, and then he asked, I guess, the wife if like the son arrived, and she said “no.” He later finds out like throughout the night, that his son passed away. So, he lost control and he died. A couple years, like around a year passes, and there’s this man that he’s walking back home. There’s a completely different guy. He’s walking back home through the same street that the guy passed away. So, this taxi pulls up next to him and he’s like, “Hey, do you want a ride?” And he finds it weird because in that street nobody stops because during the night, there’s a lot of like people robbing you and bad stuff going on there. So, he stops and they, well of course he’s right, they leave. He gets to his house and then he asks the guy like, “Hey like how much I owe you?” And he’s like, “don’t worry about it” like whatever like, “Good night.” He leaves, he goes inside and he tells them, “Oh, like this nice nice taxi guy just stopped and he gave me a ride for free!” And he was like describing them this, and that he was like, “You’re describing the guy that just passed away a year ago.” Literally a year ago like they were like 100% sure that it was him because he described him as how he looked, like his car and everything. They were like 100% sure that it was him, and he the guy that like he was telling a story that the guy gave him a ride, he later found out that they were waiting for him like at the end of the road to kill him. So, his theory is that the ghost saved his life.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh my god, yeah it was just like, “Oh, I’ll give you…”
[Melisa Magana]: “Yeah, I’ll give you I’ll give you a ride because I want to save you. What everybody knows is that they just wanted to kill him. He never knew the reason; nobody knew the reason. So that’s his theory, that the ghost saved his life. Pretty crazy.
[Taylor Redstone]: Wow.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That’s also weird because we’re usually, well where I’m from, usually the taxis don’t go at night.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: So that’s another weird thing.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, but I mean I’m guessing he was in a rush to get home, and he took the taxi that was only the way out. Specifically, because my dad said that area gets like very bad at night. So, he just wanted to get out. So, it’s possible that he was like, here’s is my best option.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh, my goodness.
[Taylor Redstone]: So, like they don’t always have like a dark motive, sometimes they’re there to help.
[Melisa Magana & Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: There’s both types, I think.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah. I believe so. Like, there’s good and bad.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Well, do you guys believe, like, that there’s, that, this is something I kind of mentioned in my last, spooky podcast, where we were, like, talking, is there ghosts, or is there demons? Because some people don’t believe in demons, they just believe in like lower entities like spirits, or is there something separate from a spirit that’s maybe angry, and then something else? Which I think there’s like a difference.
[Melisa Magana]: I think there is a difference.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I think there is a difference.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, Because some things don’t feel paranormal, some things feel darker and worse.
[Melisa Magana]: For what we believe, if it’s a good spirit, it has a white kind of shadow. And if it’s bad, it’s something dark. So that’s what we believe. So, when we see maybe a white shadow, we’re like, oh, you know
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yea, a spirit.
[Melisa Magana]: But if it’s a dark shadow, we’re like, ooh, let’s turn on the candle.
[Taylor Redstone]: Right! Exactly, the candles!
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: I don’t know if you guys have ever encountered this, but they knock the door, but nobody is there. Has it happened to you guys?
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, where they say, especially they say if it’s like three knocks, right? They say it’s like three knocks.
[Melisa Magana]: No, for us, I think it was just a knock.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: But we believe, like you make a major mistake if you open the door and nobody’s there.
[All]: Unintelligible.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, and supposedly like for us the best, like the quick solution after you open the door and nobody was there is to like literally like kick them out, like kicking out the spirit.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like yeah, like banish them.
[Melisa Magana]: Like “You’re not, you don’t belong here. Please leave.” Yeah, or even it even like telling them kind of like in a rude way like you like they’re completely banned. That’s what my dad does like he kicks them out. “Hey like leave you’re not welcome here, leave.” And so, like he gets like goosebumps until like they’re completely gone, then he’ll close the door and then like maybe turn on the candle and pray, because we consider that a bad spirit
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, and like I think you have to have authority with it or it won’t,
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, it will stay yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like so you have to like claim your space and be like “No!”
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, and then you cannot give them your energy because if you give them the energy then they will, yeah, they’ll feed on that.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah. So, it’s like, you know with like and then too with like candles sometimes like they’ll get offended by certain candles right
[Melisa Magana]: mm-hmm
[Taylor Redstone]: like they don’t want to be around for like anything yeah like you know like good, yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: Because even sometimes if you’re surrounded by bad energy, for us, it has happened that the candles kind of explode, not explode, but they crack. yes
[Taylor Redstone]: oh my gosh that’s scary.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, it has happened to us, I guess, where we’re having like, let’s say problems or we’re surrounded by bad energy, but it has happened just maybe like one time, the candle cracks or it kind of breaks.
[Taylor Redstone]: And so it’s kind of like…
[Melisa Magana]: Like it’s an alert that is.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like picking up on the air, it’s like, “Okay, calm down.”
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, literally, like it’s an alert.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, like signs and like warnings, that’s a big thing of like… like flashing lights that’s kind of like, you know, it’s, a lot of people interpret that as like a warning, like if they are driving down, yeah that’s like ooh. I’m definitely someone that’s superstitious with like things like that, like and dreams, too, it’s a big thing
[Melisa Magana & Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Because I feel like you get more information when you’re like in that relaxed state. Yeah. And so like, like, I don’t know, have you guys ever had any dreams of like, like things that are like trying to warn you for stuff?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I’ve had really, when I was younger, I used to have like really vivid dreams. Like, not so much anymore now that I think about it, but I remember I used to like hate going to sleep. Cause it was like, they weren’t like typical dreams like a little kid should be having. It was like weird dreams. And I remember specifically like a reoccurring dream that I would have was getting kidnapped. And it was always the same way though. It was always like my family was going on a trip and we were outside getting everything ready. And my dad would be like, “Oh I’m gonna go pump some gas,” and he would pull out the driveway. My mom would be like, “Okay I’m gonna go like grab something inside,” and me and my like sister would be outside and then a car would drive by and I would take note of it, and then they would like drive by again and then they would drive by again, and then I would get like scared because obviously like there’s no need to be driving by so many times. But it would always end in them getting off the car and then me running. But it would never escalate. And it was a reoccurring dream, and it was always the same dream. But luckily nothing has happened, but yeah. I do remember that was a dream that I would have a lot when I was younger. And to me, the fact that I still remember it is kind of like…
[Taylor Redstone]: It traumatizes you! Yeah, especially when you keep having it.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: What’s going to happen, yeah, it feels like it’s telling you something, but you don’t know what’s going to happen after that. Because it ends.
[Taylor Redstone]: I had a dream about a friend of mine, and he wouldn’t talk. Like he was, this was pretty recent. He was like, wouldn’t say anything and I’m like…when you know when I woke up, I was kind of interpreting that dream as like maybe he’s not going to talk to me anymore, like oh maybe whatever, but three days later, he told me he had to get like a major throat surgery and so it made me like, “okay…”
[Melisa Magana]: I know that that happens to me too that I dream of stuff, and I told my friend I’m like kind of like a witch.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yea! No Yea!
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, that I dream of stuff that are going to happen or happen really like the day after. Yeah, I don’t I cannot remember off the top of my head, but it has happened to me that like, let’s say I last night, I dreamt that we’re doing a podcast right now, and next thing you know, the next day you ask me, “Oh, hey, you want to do a podcast with me?” like stuff like that.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah, just like yeah, yeah! Subtle stuff that are connected.
[Melisa Magana]: Something that doesn’t happen yet, happens in my dream the day before or like a couple days, and then I tell my family, but they do believe me. But I feel like they don’t change.
[Taylor Redstone]: You’re psychic! That’s a total psychic thing, to have pre-cognitive dreams.
[Melisa Magana]: Stop it!
[Taylor Redstone]: It’s true! And if you, you know, wrote all those down, and you kept track of it, and I think they say if you work on it, you can get more and more. And who knows, maybe you’ll… remember like…
[Melisa Magana]: …Be the next best psychic ever.
[Taylor Redstone]: You’ll just be, you won’t, you won’t even need to have a dream, maybe one day, maybe it’ll just come to you randomly.
[Melisa Magana]: Kind of like, what’s the name of the show?
[Taylor Redstone]: “That’s So Raven!” Right?
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, I’m just having flashbacks.
[Taylor Redstone]: Where she’s like, yeah, that’ll be you in like six months! No, but you should really, like yeah like definitely…
[Melisa Magana]: I never thought of that.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, like, you know, like I think like When you have something like that like that’s a gift right, like?
[Melisa Magana]: You know, well, I didn’t have that often happens like sometimes.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I think that’s what makes it more believable though. Yeah, that it happens like spontaneously, not so often.
[Melisa Magana]: I feel it’s more terrifying like when I have dreams, and it’s like something bad has happened to somebody, you think about it. But what we also believe in my family is that like if you tell the person, like if I just had a bad dream, you have to tell somebody, so it will not happen.
[Taylor Redstone and Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah!
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, my mom’s taught me that.
[Melisa Magana]: So, when you’re trying to tell somebody, it will not happen. So, each time I have a bad dream I’m like, “Mom, so I had this dream!”
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That reminds me, my mom told me that. In middle school, I used to have this best friend. And one time he was like, “I have to come over, I have to come over.” And I was like, “Why do you need to come over so urgently?” And he was like, “I have to come over and tell you something.” And it was like a rainy day. And like, my Hispanic family, my parents didn’t let boys inside. So, like my mom opened the door and she was like, “What are you doing here?” And it’s like raining and wet.
[Melisa Magana]: “You’re banned!”
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, and she was like “Come inside. I’m not going to leave this child outside.” And like he came in and I was like, “What? Like what’s so urgent that you need to tell me?” And he was like, “I had a dream that you were going to die.”
[Melisa Magana and Taylor Redstone]: Oh my god!
[Evelyn Gallardo]: And I was like, “Oh gee, thanks for coming over to tell me that!” And he was like, “No, but it felt so real. I just needed to make sure you were good. Yeah, and I was like, “Okay,” like, “Thanks for checking on me.” And then when he left, I told my mom and my mom was like, “Well, you need to thank him for telling you,” because, you know, we have that belief that if they dream something bad, you have to tell somebody or it’s going to happen. So, like…still alive.
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[Taylor Redstone]: I had a really crazy experience. It actually involved Pizzaville, where I worked. It was like a dream. Well, I had a friend that passed away. She was like, you know, early 20s. She passed away. And I hadn’t really thought about it. I mean, it had messed me up for a while, but I hadn’t really thought about it until like later, and until I had this dream. And she was just in the restaurant that I was working at. That’s why I think this place is weird. She was just sitting there, and I was like, “Oh, what are you doing here?” And I didn’t really, I couldn’t even remember she had died in the dream. She was like, “Oh, I’m just waiting for my number to be called.” And I was like, and so that always just struck me.
[Melisa Magana]: That happened after she passed away?
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: Oh wow.
[Taylor Redstone]: And it took place in that, like the dream took place in that restaurant. Yeah. But like I always just think of like her number waiting to be called, like maybe she’s like, the next life? I don’t know, like maybe she’s like, I don’t know. It just felt, because I feel like I couldn’t have made that up in my brain. I feel like I can’t give my brain credit for that, you know. It’s like, so I don’t know, like dreams are like.
[Melisa Magana]: Did you ever see that number that she had?
[Taylor Redstone]: It was 112. And someone else that I told and like looked it up and said that it meant like new beginnings. I didn’t look it up myself but…
[Melisa Magana]: Oh wow! I mean maybe it’s good for her, maybe it means, she’s like she’s moving on.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, but it just felt real like. I don’t know.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: In my family, we believe that if somebody who passed away is in your dreams, they’ll come to visit you.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah, visitations. Yeah. And especially, like they say, depending on where it’s at, restaurants and banquet rooms, that’s a common place for people to have those dreams of a gathering. A lot of people have dreams of actual doors, and so maybe that’s like the other side.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Oh yeah.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: So, I went to Arvin High School, and I haven’t checked recently, but when I went to school there, people would say it was haunted. Like I feel like many people would like…
[Melisa Magana]: Was it like the auditorium or something?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: …Every school, yeah. Every school has like a haunted place, but yeah ours is the auditorium, and they said it was because it was, I don’t remember exactly how she passed away, but it was a girl, who was a student, at the time um, passed away, and they had her viewing in the auditorium. Because I don’t know if you guys have ever been to Arvin High’s auditorium, but it’s kind of you know, they have like, I don’t know how to explain it, but it has like, the pit. So, they had her body like in the pit and people were like walking by…
[Melisa Magana]: Like in the quad or something?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: No, in the auditorium. There was like there’s like a pit.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like where the orchestra is?
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, where like, yeah right there, and they had her like casket. I don’t know, this is just the stories I would hear, right. But, you know, they had this big funeral for her. She was like buried in her like band uniform…
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh my god.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: …and yeah and so people say that like that they see her in the auditorium she’ll like turn off lights or like and I remember, one time, because I was in drama, so it was after school uh we were sitting in the seats in the auditorium and like our director was like telling us something and boom the lights turned off and we like all screamed because we’ve heard the stories, but who knows what it was. But yeah, supposedly people will see her like in the night in her band uniform and stuff. That’s just like the main story that I’ve heard at Arvin High. She was she was a student at the time when she passed away, that’s why they buried her in her uniform.
[Taylor Redstone]: She was just like coming probably where like she was just
[Evelyn Gallardo]: I don’t even, I don’t remember like how she passed away but yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: But I mean if they did her viewing in her school, she probably thought she was still alive.
[Taylor Redstone]: Like yeah, she just thought she was. Yeah.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah. Like doing regular activities. Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah. I hear a lot of stories where it’s like spirits don’t know, and there’s like little loops, right? Yeah, You’re just there for a minute and then…
[Melisa Magana]: Before I share the other one that was a shirt going back to like spirits and going back to the loops. My dad, he told me that one time, he, they scared him. When he was coming back from the day in the river, and he was with his parents and himself, so he was walking a little bit like ahead of his parents because he already wanted to get home, and there was a tree of mangos and he decided to cut a couple of mangos, because he wanted to take them home. So, he cut a couple, he took them, and he was still going home, and he encountered two old ladies, and like he didn’t take it like nothing spooky or anything, he just said hi to them and they said hi back, and he asked them if they wanted mangos, and the ladies were like “Yeah!” So, he gave them one to each. He keeps walking and he gets home, and after that, my grandparents get home, which are his parents, and they get home and then he asked them like, “Hey did you guys did you guys encounter the ladies who were in the back?” And they’re asking, “Which ladies?” And he was like, “the two ladies, there were like these old two ladies that just passed by and gave them mangos, and they were going the direction that you guys were heading, so you just had to like cross with them because there’s only one path. She was like, “We never saw anybody.” So, to this dad, my dad thinks they were like ghosts because my grandparents never saw them. Only him. And he said like, “They didn’t try to scare me because they were nice.”
So I guess they were nice spirits.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, which, probably. They were old ladies, so they were probably just the spirits of the rancho.
[Melisa Magana]: That’s what I think.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh my gosh. That’s crazy.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: That’s so sweet.
[Melisa Magana]: I know.
[Taylor Redstone]: They were just there.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, because they didn’t say nothing to him. They just said hi. I don’t know if they had a conversation, but they just said hi and my dad offered mangoes, they said yeah, and they went eating their mangoes which is pretty, it’s kind of cute, like they but then you think about it and you’re like wow…
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, it’s a little weird.
[Melisa Magana]: What if they were like trying to protect him from something? Going back to like spirits protecting you…
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh yeah, They were like getting him back.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah, from something, maybe it could have been an animal, could have been a person or something.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Or maybe the mangoes.
[Melisa Magana]: Perhaps! What if there was something wrong with them? I think this is a good couple though. It is kind of creepy though. Okay, so, this story goes on with a guy that was an alcoholic. So, he would always drink, and whenever he would drink, he would always be like very rude and disrespectful, and people would like curse him out. So, it was this day, it was like already super dark, and he was like extremely drunk, and then so to go back home he had to go through this street that was like very lonely, and people would say that it was haunted, like bad things would happen. So, he, of course, he was drunk, he didn’t care, he decided to leave. He’s going through that street, but it’s like kind of like, it’s not like a well-done street. It’s just like an old-looking street. So, he’s going, and then this guy with the black horse comes next to him and kind of like the Taxi one, he just stops next to him, and he’s like, “Come on, get on the horse” and of course he tells him like, “No, leave me alone!” And he starts like cursing him out, and like the man on the horse, he’s like, “I’m not giving you an option, you’re coming with me!” He grabs him by the hand, he throws him in the, what he thought it was a horse. He opens his eyes because everything happened in a flash. He opens his eyes, and he’s on top of a tree, and that tree has a lot of like thorns like those very, they can hurt you real bad. But like my dad said they were like super sharp, like they will like, stab you. So, he was on top of the… at the very top of the tree, super tall tree, and he was screaming for help. Literally the alcohol left his body. Because he was conscious, and he was screaming for help. People went rushing to him and they were like, “how can he be on the top of the tree? It’s impossible for him to just climb the tree, literally impossible!” So, however they could, they were able to bring him down and of course he was safe and everything, but before they were bringing him down, they were praying to make it easier for them to bring him down, and legend says that to this day, after that happened to the man, he doesn’t drink at all. So, people think, like in the rancho, in the little pueblo, that it was the devil, that he encountered the devil, why? Because he was saying a lot of bad words, things he should have never said. And they think that he was probably making him come.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, because especially if he was drunk too, they say that when you are drunk, like you can, you can draw more like dark things to you.
[Melisa Magana]: Yeah. He was like an alcoholic. He would drink every day. That’s what they say. He would drink and drink and drink and I’m guessing that was like his time to change.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh my gosh. So, he, so like somehow, he got him up there because there’d be probably no way he could like…
[Melisa Magana]: No, there was no way that he could climb because my dad said that people would say that the tree was super tall, like extremely tall. Like he couldn’t climb it because they had all those thorns.
[Taylor Redstone]: Yeah, and then he wouldn’t have made it!
[Melisa Magana]: No, he would not have made it. Like he would have been very, very injured, and he was a little bit injured here and there, but not as bad as he would have climbed a tree. So, like it’s weird that after he saw the guy and the guy told him to get on the horse, he got him from the hand, he like he tried to like pull him to the horse, but instead of pulling him to the horse, he pulls him on top of the tree. And he didn’t realize until because it was like he blinked and opened his eyes, and he was on top of the tree and the guy was not there no more with the horse.
[Taylor Redstone]: Do you think it was like “Okay, you want to come on the horse, then fine you’re gonna go up there!” Like something like that? Or was it like, he was just gonna do it anyway?
[Melisa Magana]: Well, I was thinking, maybe it could be like a theory, what about if he would have agreed to go to the horse, he could have taken him home like safely. But if he didn’t agree, he was like, “Okay you’re gonna get a punishment.”
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Yeah, he pissed off a spirit.
[Taylor Redstone]: Oh my gosh, do you think he could have like taken his soul, like if he did go with him?
[Melisa Magana]: Maybe! That could be another theory! Oh my gosh.
[Taylor Redstone]: That’s crazy.
[Melisa Magana]: It’s crazy and very scary. Because I mean you start thinking like what if he would have done this. Or if he would have stayed, that would not have happened, but going back, he didn’t obey to the people that were telling him to stay so that happened.
[Evelyn Gallardo]: Goes back to what we were saying, when you don’t obey…
[Melisa Magana]: You’re ready for punishment. And his punishment for life was not drinking alcohol. Because of the fear of that happening again.
[Taylor Redstone]: Thank you so much for listening! I want to say a huge thank you to Evelyn and Melisa for joining me today, as well. It was so much fun sharing scary stories, and I hope this has encouraged you to do the same. And, I hope you have all really enjoyed your Halloween season and yeah, stay spooky!
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